您覺得政府對農業注重嗎？

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蘇佬

阿!到底不用等政府施捨的產業到底是那個

你麻說一個不會被大家凸臭的答案

等好幾天了

盧建男

一個美牛政策，一個被WHO宣布為狂牛症疫區的國家，
我國政府可以罔顧WHO的標準（觀察期7年無任何疫情）開放美牛進口，
甚至堅持已久的瘦肉精零標準檢出也可以棄守，
對於本國農業的支持，真的看不出來！

如果台灣有這等強大的農民組織可以加入來嚇止台灣政府與美國的話，
我願加入！

蘇少儀

tomcatto 發表於 2012-11-22 03:33
靠科技?靠產業組織????.........是這樣嗎?是先靠政府補貼吧!!!!

美國農業靠政府高金額補貼違反自由貿易精 ...

看看美國養豬產業組織是養豬戶還是財團

http://www.nppc.org/about-us/board-of-directors-and-staff/
President
R.C. Hunt
WASHINGTON, D.C., March 5, 2012 – R.C. Hunt, a producer from Wilson, N.C., was elevated to the post of president for the National Pork Producers Council. He was elected to the post for a one-year term at NPPC’s annual business meeting – the National Pork Industry Forum – held in Denver March 1-3.
Hunt is the president and co-owner of Andrews Hunt Farms, which consists of swine, cattle and fish operations and which has 1,000 acres of cropland in the North Carolina counties of Franklin, Nash and Wilson. The Bailey-based farm currently produces 75,000 feeder pigs a year while finishing 40,000 market hogs. The farm contracts for Premium Standard Farms.

President-Elect
Randy Spronk
WASHINGTON, D.C., March 5, 2012 – Randy Spronk, a pork producer from Edgerton, Minn., was elevated to the post of president-elect for the National Pork Producers Council. He was elected for a one-year term at NPPC’s annual business meeting – the National Pork Industry Forum – held in Denver March 1-3.
Spronk is the managing partner for two family farm enterprises: Spronk Brothers III LLP is involved in pork production, and Ranger Farms LLP is involved in crop production. The pork production enterprise markets 120,000 head annually. Spronk and his partners also raise corn and soybeans on 2,000 acres.

Vice President
Howard Hill, DVM
WASHINGTON, D.C., March 5, 2012 – Dr. Howard Hill, a pork producer and veterinarian from Cambridge, Iowa, today was elected to the post of vice president for the National Pork Producers Council. He was elected for a one-year term at NPPC’s annual business meeting – the National Pork Industry Forum – held in Denver March 1-3.

蘇少儀

美國農業補貼

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy#United_States

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http://nationalhogfarmer.com/mar ... spend-hog-subsidies
NPPC Presses Canada To Suspend Hog Subsidies
Jun. 14, 2012

The National Pork Producers Council (NPPC) is requesting that Canada suspend its hog subsidy programs before entering the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade talks.
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.The National Pork Producers Council (NPPC) is requesting that Canada suspend its hog subsidy programs before entering the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade talks.
NPPC pointed out if similar programs existed in the United States, production would more than double in 10 years and critically impact the Canadian hog market.
Taking the Quebec subsidy program, Iowa State University economist Dermot Hayes estimated that a similar program in the United States would increase pork production by 8.4% annually. Over 10 years that would add 140 million market hogs, compared to current levels of about 110 million hogs marketed annually in the United States.
“The Canadian subsidy programs distort the North American hog and pork market, limiting the growth of U.S. production, employment and profitability,” says Doug Wolf, NPPC’s immediate past president and chairman of its trade committee. “Canada’s entry into the TPP negotiations should be contingent on renunciation of its trade-distorting subsidies.”
Ontario’s Risk Management Program over five years would boost Canadian hog production by more than 606,000 hogs, and cut U.S. pork production by more than 430,000 hogs worth more than $73 million and cost nearly 600 U.S. pork industry jobs.
In response, Canada says the U.S. mandatory country-of-origin labeling (MCOOL) law violates U.S. trade obligations according to the World Trade Organization (WTO). The U.S. pork industry did not support MCOOL, and NPPC is urging the United States to comply with the WTO ruling on the U.S. appeal of the earlier decision.
“You can’t argue that MCOOL distorts the hog markets, then ignore the far greater impact of the Canadian subsidy programs,” Wolf says.
The TPP is an Asia-Pacific regional trade agreement that currently includes the United States.

tomcatto

強到可以請參議員立法是農民組織????還是財團??

重點在哪文不對題.........東拉西扯在講甚麼阿.....

有過的法案才叫法案.....我們養豬協會不也是請民進黨立法禁止瘦肉精阿.....

你找資料功力去哪了?


用來用去就那幾招

1.文不對題亂扯

2.貼英文以為人家看不懂

3.扯不過就說別人英文差....只有你英文最好

現在是要比誰英文好的嗎?

不過你那幾招我也看透了...

歐美農民也是靠政府補貼是不爭的事實.....

丹麥全國育種制度最好也農民組織搞得?

法國80%養豬資料電腦化也是農民組織搞得?

就連經濟有問題的西班牙到現在都還在補助農業政策.....


1996年，美國政府為了WTO的農業協定，想要制定「農業改進與改良法案」，取消差額給付，直接以固定現金給付，維持農民，並鼓勵農民依據市場機制從事生產。

可是此政策並未成功，那時全球農產品價格下跌，農民所得下降。預算支付360億美元和實際支付800億美元相差很大。

使得1999、2000年通過一系列的農業緊急救濟法案，加強對農民的補助。 補助金額高達一兆多美元

上述其中一項還是美國豬肉為了跟丹麥歐洲等國搶日本市場特別編列大量預算......

美國農民組織是不錯........但是還不是靠政府補貼!!!

2002年為討好農村選民，通過「農業安全與農業投資」法案，將過去的價格支持政策又重新恢復，並大幅提高農產品支持價格。提出農業法案在未來十年還要對美國農民增加一千八百億美元的補貼。

除了美國之外，歐盟國家也透過所謂「共同農業政策」（common agricultural policy）進行農業補貼，

每年補助金額高達七百億英鎊（折合新臺幣約三兆五千億）！歐美除了補貼農民之外，還用高關稅與其他的貿易障礙，

阻擾其他國家便宜的農產品進入其市場。正如英國《衛報》經濟記者丹妮（Charlotte Denny）指出，今天除了國防工業之外，就只有已開發國家的農業受到這樣的保護。

歐美的農業補貼在國際上卻造成很大的不公平與傷害。已開發國家對農產品設立貿易障礙，

使得開發中國家無法銷售他們較為廉價的產品。農業補貼又往往造成生產過剩，這些農產品便廉價銷售到海外。

相信大家前幾年美國棉還大打廣告有印象吧!連穿的衣服上面都要有專門一個美國棉的商標!!現在勒!市場占有率高了....連商標都不用了.....

美國的棉花生產成本是國際平均價格的兩倍，但美國政府每年高達三十九億美元的補助，卻使得美國棉花可廉價傾銷，造成國際價格暴跌。

歐美的農業補貼政策讓開發中國家陷入嚴重的經濟困境，使得全球經濟發展更不平等。造成馬利與查德等生產棉花的非洲國家發生大量農民陷入困境。

蘇少儀

好像和我帖子的內容不太相符

53. 產業組織的總裁（President），新選出的總裁及副總裁均為養豬生產者，豬場員及暨是養豬業者又是獸醫師（紅色粗體）而非財團負責人
54. 美國豬肉生產者議會（NPPC）要求加拿大加入跨太平洋筫易夥伴協議組織前中止養豬補貼............（由此post文可見NPPC對美國政策的影響力）

題目太大
農委會及中華經濟研究院對美國農業補貼有一些post文可供參考
http://www.coa.gov.tw/view.php?catid=19485
http://www.wtocenter.org.tw/Smar ... aper/article119.htm

AbiM

tomcatto 發表於 2012-11-23 16:27
強到可以請參議員立法是農民組織????還是財團??

重點在哪文不對題.........東拉西扯在講甚麼阿.....

給你一個:40ade

刁著煙的養豬公

tomcatto 發表於 2012-11-23 16:27
強到可以請參議員立法是農民組織????還是財團??

重點在哪文不對題.........東拉西扯在講甚麼阿.....

:40ade

n75264

強到可以請參議員立法是農民組織????還是財團??

重點在哪文不對題.........東拉西扯在講甚米碗糕

蘇少儀

自己注重自己，別人才會注重你
自己都不圱視自己的產業組織
誰會注重你的產業組織
產業組織是產業和政府對話的窗口
不強化產業組織，產業組織與政府的對話不具代表性
政府投資構築的產業公共設施就不見得符合大多數產業成員的需求
產業成員整天指責政府主管機關
那是找錯溝通的對象，就是無效溝通

不知如此解釋，文是否對題？